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Fire Alarm: what bids leave out

Fire alarm sits between the electrical bid, the sprinkler bid and whoever monitors the building. One fire alarm bidder carries the design, permit drawings, devices, wiring, programming, tie-ins and the final test with the fire marshal. Another prices devices and programming only and assumes the electrician pulls the wire, the owner handles monitoring and the existing panel has room. On TI work the existing building system adds another layer. Settle who does what before you compare.

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Standard scope checklist

Send this to every bidder and ask them to mark each line Included, Excluded or give an Add $. Silence is not inclusion.

Sending it out? Use the free scope letter template to ask every bidder for line-item scope, inclusions, exclusions and alternates. Terms to know: by others, qualification, NIC (not in contract), exclusion.

#Scope item
1Drawings the price is based on, and whether the fire alarm is design-build or fully designed
2System design and permit drawings by a qualified designer (confirm with your design team/AHJ)
3Permit and plan review fees
4Fire alarm control panel: new, or extending the existing building panel
5Compatibility with the existing system and its manufacturer on TI work
6Initiating devices: smoke and heat detectors, manual pull stations, duct detectors
7Notification devices: horns, strobes and speakers, and the coverage they're based on
8Power supplies and batteries for notification circuits
9Conduit, boxes and wiring: fire alarm sub or electrical sub
10Dedicated 120V circuit to the panel and power supplies (usually electrical)
11Sprinkler monitoring: flow and tamper switches tied to the panel
12Duct detectors: furnished by fire alarm, installed by mechanical, wired by whom
13HVAC shutdown and smoke damper tie-ins
14Elevator recall and shunt trip tie-ins (if there's an elevator)
15Door holders and access control release tie-ins
16Kitchen hood suppression tie-in (if there's a commercial kitchen)
17Communication path for monitoring: phone lines, cellular or radio communicator
18Central station monitoring service and contract (usually owner)
19Programming, labeling and device addressing
20Pre-testing, final acceptance testing and the fire marshal witness test
21Coordination with the building owner or landlord's fire alarm vendor
22As-built drawings, record of completion and owner training
23Patching and painting after device installation
24Warranty, sales tax and bond

Common exclusions and how they are worded

ExclusionTypical wordingWhy it mattersTypical cost to cover
Conduit & wiring
  • “Devices and programming only”
  • “Conduit and wire by electrical contractor”
  • “Excludes raceway”
Fire alarm wiring is either in the fire alarm bid or in the electrical bid. If each assumes the other, nobody pulls the wire. Assign it by name.TBD
Design & permit drawings
  • “Excludes engineering”
  • “Permit drawings by others”
  • “Excludes permit fees”
Many jurisdictions require fire alarm drawings stamped or prepared by a qualified designer before a permit is issued. Confirm with your design team/AHJ and ask every bidder whether design is in.TBD
Existing system & landlord vendor
  • “Excludes work on existing panel”
  • “Panel capacity by others”
  • “Building's vendor to perform tie-in at owner's cost”
In multi-tenant buildings, the landlord often requires its own fire alarm vendor to program or connect anything to the building panel. That cost sits outside every bid unless you ask.TBD
Monitoring & communicator
  • “Excludes monitoring”
  • “Phone lines by owner”
  • “Excludes communicator”
The system needs a monitoring path and a monitoring contract. Phone lines, a cellular communicator and the monthly service usually fall to the owner. Budget them now.TBD
Sprinkler monitoring
  • “Flow and tamper switches by sprinkler contractor”
  • “Excludes sprinkler monitoring”
  • “Wiring to switches by others”
The sprinkler sub usually installs flow and tamper switches, and the fire alarm sub monitors them. The wire between the two is a common gap.TBD
HVAC, elevator & door tie-ins
  • “Excludes interface to other systems”
  • “Duct detectors furnished only”
  • “Elevator recall wiring by others”
Duct detectors, HVAC shutdown, elevator recall, door holders and kitchen hood tie-ins each touch two or three trades. Make a list and assign every wire.TBD
Testing & inspection
  • “Excludes final inspection”
  • “One test included; re-tests at additional cost”
  • “Excludes fire marshal fees”
The final acceptance test usually needs the fire marshal, the fire alarm tech and sometimes the sprinkler and elevator techs together. Ask how many visits are included.TBD
After-hours work
  • “Normal working hours only”
  • “Excludes overtime”
  • “Excludes fire watch”
Tie-ins to an occupied building's system are often done after hours, and taking a system offline may need a fire watch. Ask your AHJ what's required and who pays.TBD
Patching & painting
  • “Excludes patching”
  • “Excludes painting”
  • “Surface-mount devices only”
Device installation leaves holes and surface boxes. Make sure patching and painting are in either the fire alarm or the painting bid.TBD

“Typical cost to cover” is TBD. We will publish ranges only once we have real, sourced data. Until then, use your own estimate or a confirmed add price from a bidder.

Questions to ask bidders

  1. Is design and permit drawing preparation included, and who's preparing them?
  2. Who provides conduit, boxes and wire for the fire alarm devices: you or the electrical contractor?
  3. Are you adding to the existing building panel? Have you confirmed it has capacity and is compatible?
  4. Does the landlord or building require its own fire alarm vendor for tie-ins or programming?
  5. Which tie-ins are included: sprinkler flow and tamper, duct detectors, HVAC shutdown, elevator recall, door holders, kitchen hood?
  6. What monitoring communicator is included, and is any monitoring service in your price?
  7. How many final test visits with the fire marshal are included?
  8. What work has to happen after hours, and is that in your price?

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